Talk:List of Nobel laureates by country

Country?

I have removed Charles J. Pedersen from the Norway list. According to the article: He "was born in Pusan, Korea and died in Salem, New Jersey." I cannot find any connection to Norway. Did I do the right thing? Ottawahitech (talk) 14:04, 6 December 2017 (UTC) Please ping me

I have also removed Elizabeth Blackburn from the United States list since it says on her page introduction (and in the infobox) that she is Australian. Again, I am not sure I did the right thing. Anyone? Ottawahitech (talk) 16:18, 19 December 2017 (UTC) Please ping me

If you read further on her page she became an American citizen in 2003 and won the prize in 2009 so she was an American when she won. -DJSasso (talk) 17:27, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

How is the list ordered?

Within each country entries are obviously not ordered alphabetiaclly. Anyone? Ottawahitech (talk) 20:14, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Ethnicity? nationality?, half?, quarter?

Quite many are added with "different rules"

Some add quarter-ethnicals, not even making a notification about it, which is even more questionable.

Half-ethnicals could be and often seems to be added, which seems reasonable.

Nationality at birth is also usually added, which seems reasonable.

But some delete some nationals without knowing their Nationality at birth for instance. Those editors who delete assume their nationality.

Many editors delete many ethnical hungarians who ALSO are born as hungarian citizens.

For instance: according to Hungarian nationality law someone born to a Hungarian father is automatically born as a Hungarian citizen. ( Not to mention ethnicity which many are or should be included on)

Barány, Zsigmondy, and Polányi are born outside of Hungary,but always included. Only Báránys father was hungarian, but he is included as often as those born in Hungary with two hungarian parents.

But many born outside of Hungary with two hungarian parents are often deleted: Fried, Politzer( mother probably too since her siblings had hungarian names, original research yes, but father was born in Hungary ), Friedman, Gajdusek, Wiesel and these last three are often included. Friedman and Wiesel were hungarian jews. In Hungary jews are considered ethnical hungarians, too. (Hungary is a special case since only two known historical mass-conversions to the mosaic faith were Hungarian: Kazar elite, 8th tribe of the conquering magyars and the Sabbatarians in Transylvania.So hungarian jews have some magyar component too) This many do not seem to grasp, so many are excluded by some editors and this COULD be, (but not for sure) perceived as anti-semitic, because some racist hungarians too tried to exclude some, sometimes, like Kertész. And it is also anti-hungarian.

Half-hungarians are often deleted: Stigler, Glück, Furchgott, Osheroff (mother) and maybe Karle (mother).

Ruzicka was born in Hungary, as was Prelog and Andric. Ruzicka was born in the Kingdom of Hungary. Croatia was part of Hungary from ca 1102-1918.

Editors often do not understand that Austria and Hungary were two different states with separate laws and passports.They slmetimes also do not know what (Austro-Hungarian) codominium means.

It means that Prelog and Andric were citizens of both Hungary and Austria since Bosnia was codominium.

There were never an Austro-Hungarian passport.

Prelog, Ruzicka and Andric were all ca half-croats ethnically, so they could of course be included based on croation ethnicity also, but also under Austria and Hungary in the case of Andric and Prelog, but not Ruzicka who was born as a citizen of Hungary.

Some do not understand hungarian ethnicity, that ethnical hungarians are a mixture of magyars, slavs germans and others, so they may think that those with non-magyar family names probably belong to minorities of Hungary. It is more common than not that ethnical hungarians have one grand-parent who is german and another slavic, for instance.

Today I noticed that someone just erased Karikó and Krausz, both born in Hungary, still hungarian citizens and also working in Hungary too and also ethnical hungarians.

So if others could help to restore and further correct those under Hungary it would be desirable and de facto factual.

Vazulvonal of Stockholm (talk) 09:50, 5 January 2025 (UTC)