Castilibrary2

Your new articles

Thanks for all the new articles! I see that you plan to expand them soon, but could you at least put categories and biography stub tags on them? That would help a lot. Thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 05:28, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the categories on the new ones. Of course, I meant to add valid categories that we already have. It would also be helpful if you slow down creating these until you expand the existing ones. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:47, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Theo will be a great ambassador! It's good that you got a local. It'd be great if we could get a list of the pages that will be worked on, so that patrollers can ignore them for now and get back to them later... Would that be possible? I can get a partial list from the stubs that you created, but are there any the students might create themselves or any existing pages? Also, if editors are bothering your students over content opinions, you could try tagging the articles or their talk pages with {{class project|teacher=Castilibrary2|link=Wikipedia:Schools/Projects/Lesser Known Figures}} Osiris (talk) 04:03, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I am very, very grateful to Theo, and very grateful to have someone close to our time zone. I have just added a list of the pages we will work on to the class pages. I will add a few more prior to class (tonight or tomorrow) and will reflect them on the class page, as well. For this class, I would like the students not to create any new pages themselves. I did add a tag at the top of each of these pages today, though I used

Looks great! Thanks for the list! :) Osiris (talk) 04:38, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your guidance

Thank you for your response. I am doing my best to navigate the categories, which are new to me, and am using the tree to look for appropriate ones. As "Category:Chinese history" seemed a bit broad, I tried to add "Category:Chinese inventors," which matched the format of other countries' inventor categories. Please let me know if this is inappropriate (I have more Chinese inventors that I need to go back and tag) and I will remove that tag.

Question about birth and death years, please. I noticed that it is common to tag birth and death years--should I only do that it a category for that year already exists?

About the stubs: I am preparing for a brief class with students on Wed., working with an ambassador. The individuals the teacher has selected (I am the librarian) are fairly obscure, but important figures in their times. The students are going to do a bit of research from pre-selected sources and flesh out these stubs. However, I do not want to have to teach them how to create pages, especially since we want to get them all categorized appropriately. Hence the stubs. They will all be populated on Wed. afternoon PST. Trying to get all in oder that needs to be done prior to that time.

Really appreciate your feedback, and working hard to learn all I need to do to carry this out within the editorial parameters and to help add to this wonderful resource! Thank you. --Castilibrary2 (talk) Castilibrary2 (talk) 15:49, 3 December 2013 (UTC)Castilibrary2

Ah, I didn't know you were setting up a school project. You probably didn't know that we have a page where school projects can be listed. It's at Wikipedia:Schools/Projects. You could list your project there and put the school project banner on each of the pages you create. Normally we like the coordinators of these projects to be more familiar with the way we do things here before they try to guide others, but I guess it's too late for that.

I will answer more of your questions later today when I have more time and I can use a better browser. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:29, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

My ambassador just sent me the banner code. I am in the process of adding the banners, but was teaching all day and could not get to it. They will be there ASAP. Sorry for the difficulties. Also cleaning up categories as I can. Also, creating guidance doc for next year, and will fill in my knowledge before then.

Hi, sorry about the miscommunications. I am said ambassador, typically for the English Wikipedia, and was approached there to ambassador a school project (which I didn't know was on SEW until later). I didn't know that she was going to be creating articles in advance until she had already done so... Since it's such a brief project, I didn't feel that it warranted an entire project page (one afternoon). As far as categories go, Wikipedia:Category#Creating_new_categories is a useful resource -- in general, there's probably no need for a new category (just use existing ones). Auntof6, thanks for keeping an eye out. Theopolisme _talk! 23:23, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

OK, comments and answers to more of your questions.

I'm sorry I didn't know the articles were for a class project. When we know that, we're not as quick to clean them up. We also don't like to see someone, especially a new editor, creating a lot of stubs in a short amount of time, but it makes sense for what you're doing.

Chinese history category: you wouldn't normally put articles about people in that category, so I changed it to "Chinese people" when I saw it.

Chinese inventors: we didn't have this category, so I was changing the articles to have "Chinese people" and "inventors" instead. I try to keep redlinked categories to a minimum here because I spent a lot of time cleaning up thousands of them that we had. Normally we want at least three articles in each new category, so when I saw that you had three under Chinese inventors, I defined the category and put it back on the articles.

Birth and death year categories should be put on every article that is about a person, even if the category doesn't exist yet. These are an exception to the rule about at least three entries, so these can be created even if there are only one or two entries. It would be great if you create them where they don't already exist: just be sure to use the standard template we use for them. However, if you don't want to create them, somebody (usually me!) will eventually find that they are redlinked and create them.

You might like to look at User:Auntof6/What to put in a biographical article. It's not a guideline, just a summary of good things to do with articles about people. You might find something helpful there.

Question: do your students know how to write Simple English? I'm talking about Simple English as defined by our guideline at Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages. It's ironic that Simple English is actually harder to write than regular English, and the people who are our target audience are less likely to be able to write it. It would probably help us a lot if your students are familiar with the guideline so they know what's expected here. They don't have to stick to the lists of simple words, but they should have enough knowledge of English to know what words are simple.

Good luck with the class, and let us know how it goes. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:53, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for all this great information. I will make sure that tonight (and over the next few days) I get all the categories in order.

I am going to be keeping an eye on the Simple part, and will talk to the students about it in my opening. Theopolisme kindly pointed out that Simple is a tall order for kids when I first made contact, but I was handed this project with certain parameters and the person who had taken care of many of the logistics in the past was gone-I will absolutely bring the concern about using SImple into the reflection before we pack the idea away until next year. If I need to take responsibility for more cleanup after, I will do so.

Also, I am sorry that I should have pointed out that I was creating stubs, but I thought it was better that I do it (and go through this cleanup process ahead of time) than having students do it willy-nilly.

Added class page Theopolisme _talk! and Auntof6 _talk!. It is at: Wikipedia:Schools/Projects/Lesser Known Figures

Welcome!

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Baseball Watcher 00:56, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

References in your class's articles

When you have your class add references to articles, can you please have them make sure that there is a <references /> or {{reflist}} tag in the article? This will display the references. Right now, many of them are coming up with errors. See this one for example: https://simple.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Al_Sahili&curid=427855&diff=4653765&oldid=4653749 I changed it so they'll come up now: https://simple.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Al_Sahili&diff=4653796&oldid=4653793 Only (talk) 22:47, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

thanks, found that I missed one or two, and am adding them as I go. Will also double-check all as soon as class is over and fix any errors. Thank you!

duplicates

Hello Castilibrary2! You created the article Mae C Jemison. There is already an article about that astronout: Mae Jemison. It would be better to improve the old article than to create a second article. -- Reise Reise (talk) 08:53, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Same for Gertrude B Elion. There is already a short article: Gertrude B. Elion. -- Reise Reise (talk) 09:04, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

So grateful! Changed our links. Reise Reise (talk) do you have page deletion authority to get rid of those extra pages, or should I contact an Ambassador? Thanks for catching that error! Castilibrary2 (talk) 18:05, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

I deleted those pages for you. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:13, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Female scientists project

Hi, Castilibrary2. I just wanted to let you know that I'm online right now in case there's anything I can help you with.

By the way, I noticed that your project page, Wikipedia:Schools/Projects/Notable Female Scientistis appears to have misspelled the word scientists. If you want, I can move that page to the correct spelling and change the banners that point to the current spelling. Let me know. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:36, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi! I did motice that I had misspelled it, but was not sure how to change the original title, so I went with it. Thank you so much for help. Also, we are now getting the (feared) note that our IP range had been blocked. Is that something you are able to help with, by any chance? Sorry for the challenges, and I appreciate your help. Thank you. Castilibrary2 (talk) 21:17, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

You can change a page name by moving it. I just took care of that, and changed the spelling everywhere it was used.

As far as the IP messages, I'm sorry I didn't see this message until just now. Are you still getting the message about blocked IP ranges? I might be able to help if you can give me the exact message you're getting. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:32, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much.

I was deep in the weeds of this project and was unable to respond to the question about blocking in a timely fashion. The blocking seemed to pop on and off. We managed to complete the project, however, and only I (and possibly another teacher or two) will be touching them from now on. So, we should be good to go.

Our gratitude to you is unmeasurable, for your guidance each year. Students were noticing your name and asking about you, and wanted me to pass on their thanks. This year, we got to put double the time into this project, and I think we can see the difference. Students felt actively empowered. Thank you.

You're welcome. If the project is finished, is it OK for others to edit the articles now? I had noticed a few things, but I was leaving them for the students. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:05, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about the global block - all accounts should now be exempt and able to continue editing. We would also welcome anyone from the project who would be interested in continuing to edit here.--Peterdownunder (talk) 22:42, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Peterdownunder (talk). Thank you for your help. As usual, I got sucked into my next project and am back a bit later to clean up. Quick clarification, please, when you have time. By "here" in "We would also welcome anyone from the project who would be interested in continuing to edit here" do you mean in the articles we worked on this time (I will be doing so, slowly over the next few weeks, although I am taking the class project template off today) or in SEW in general? That is: did we leave huge messes that need further help to be useful (as I mentioned, that is in the works) or are you suggesting that I possibly finally have enough experience to pay it forward? Or, do you want students to take on more editing (because I have ideas about that, as well)? Just trying to clarify your meaning so I respond with appropriate actions. Thank you. Again. As always!

Thank you for having the courage to try this. This is the first time I have seen students on Simple Wikipedia. These days they usually come in through WikiEd on the English Wikipedia. https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Education_program I have to admit that I have found Simple to be less impersonal and much more welcoming to newcomers. By the way, if you add four tildes ~~~~at the end of your posts, it will automatically add your signature and a time stamp. I think what Peterdownunder means is that if your students want more practice with editing Wikipedia, they don't have to leave when the class is over, they are welcome to continue to edit here. Best of luck with the class. Neotarf (talk) 18:29, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@Neotarf: Ah, forgot the tildes -- sorry! I do have the problem that I am on and off SEW. We are really excited to do this each year and hope to be raising strong young women editors. I am still trying to get this class repeated for them when they are older to reinforce. Castilibrary2 (talk) 19:50, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Didn't mean to nitpick, but it does make the page easier to read, also it is easier to pick up editing tricks one at a time, as you have a use for it. Don't know how old your students are, but you may want to look at WikiEd's program and events dashboard, not sure if it is supported for Simple yet. https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/ If you do any amount of editing on enwiki, you may also be interested in the Wikipedia Weekly Facebook group, or connecting with one of the local groups in your area. https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup There are many women now who will only edit enwiki as part of an organized in-person event. You may also be interested in Women in Red, which I believe is the most active WikiProject right now, so their information is kept up to date. https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red Their essay on writing biographies is particularly good, https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Essays/Primer_for_creating_women%E2%80%99s_biographies but of course the Simple Wikipedia does things a little differently.Neotarf (talk) 20:32, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome back, and some comments on creating categories

Welcome back with your latest class project, Castilibrary2. I was patrolling new categories and saw some of the ones you created. Please note the following:

• Capitalization in category names is not the same as capitalization of, for example, book titles. The only words that should be capitalized in a category name are proper nouns and the first word. (The same is true of other page names and for section names in articles.)
• A category should have at least three entries put into it right away. If there aren't three ready to go into it, wait to create it until there are. The entries can be articles, templates, or other categories.
• We don't categorize by gender as much as other wikis do. Generally, to categorize by gender, there should be a reason that gender is specifically relevant to the topic. Most topics don't need this categorization. Along these same lines, there is a note on Category:Women saying that the category is for articles about women in general, not articles about individual women.
• Categories themselves need to be categorized.
• Pages should not be categorized in more than one part of a branch of the category tree. For example, a person categorized as an American artist does not need to be categorized directly under artists.

Thanks. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:10, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! I will get to work changing those today! Castilibrary2

Welcome back again, and a note

Hi again, and welcome back to Simple English Wikipedia. I just wanted to let you know that the expression is "role model" (role spelled with an "E", not with two L's). I fixed the spelling and moved your class page to the correct spelling. I left a redirect behind the move. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:32, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, but I feel embarrassed! Thank you so much for catching that clearly what I get for trying to talk to my TAs about the project and set the project up at the same time. On a Friday afternoon. Appreciate your help -- the better news is that I have put in several hundred hours on Wikipedia.org since our last project, including a WikiScholars training. I know some things are different on SEW, but at least I am much better prepared. All the best, Castilibrary2 (talk) 06:33, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Sourcing

Hello! I just wanted to let you know that when you cite sources here on Wiki, it is preferred that you do an in-line citation, like: <ref>{{cite web|title=title of url|url=url|publisher=source|date=date article was created|access-date=date you found it}}</ref> instead of just listing the references on the bottom. This help shows what claim you are proving with sources. Keep up the great work and let me know if you have any questions!

I wish my school did Wikipedia, that would've been awesome! Best regards, Mwiqdoh (talk) 03:30, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. I am setting up pages for my students, who will be adding all sources. There is a reflist tag and all will get cited properly in time. I do recall seeing one citation pop up quickly as I was setting up (and carrying over from en.Wikipedia.org where I edit weekly under a non-work account). I'll go back and find it and check out what is up. Thank you so much for checking in! Castilibrary2 (talk) 03:42, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Ah ok, thank you so much for explaining. Love the work you do and the increase of coverage on women! Mwiqdoh (talk) 01:29, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Notability

Hello again! Just wanted to let you know that some of the articles you created aren't notable enough to have an article here on Wikipedia. (such as: Justa Lujwangana). Unless these articles can be backed up with sources that prove notability, it's going to be removed. Since you have the students add the sources, I'll wait until all the sources are added in. Once they are, I'll let you know which articles aren't notable, and you can either find sources that show it's notable or have them deleted. Thanks! :) Mwiqdoh (talk) 00:36, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. I understand the notability requirements. Castilibrary2 (talk) 00:52, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

I don't know if you are aware of this, but the page you created (Sayyida Al Hurra), already exists as Sayyida al-Hurra. If you meant that, sorry for bothering you, but I just wanted to let you know just in case. :) Mwiqdoh (talk) 01:23, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

@Mwiqdoh You're fairly new here, so you might not know that Castilibrary2 has done many school projects here. Articles are being set up for students to work on, so they can be in somewhat rough shape at first. Please have patience and let the work continue. The time to be concerned about these will be after the class is finished. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:16, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6: Oh yes I totally understand this is a school project, which is why I'm giving time for the sources to be added in, I'm just letting them know that the person themself isn't notable, not the article being in rough shape. The reason I'm not marking it for deletion is because this is a school project, so I am waiting for sources to be added in, and if the sources don't prove it's notable, then I'll flag it. Obviously, I'm being patient as I'm waiting for the sources to be added, I'm just letting them know ahead of time! Thanks for reading! Mwiqdoh (talk) 01:19, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

@Mwiqdoh: The articles won't show notability at first, because the students will fill in the detail. If you think the person isn't notable at all, please still wait and give the students a chance to show that they are. Castilibrary2 understands that the articles in their current state aren't sufficient, so please don't worry about them for now. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:24, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6: Exactly what I'm thinking! I'll wait until the article is improved by the students because they might be able to show the person is notable. Looks like we're thinking the same way! Thanks!!! Mwiqdoh (talk) 01:25, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Bisa Butler

An editor has requested deletion of Bisa Butler, an article you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Bisa Butler and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. --Creol(talk) 12:43, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for keeping an eye on SEW. As you will note, this page is mid-creation as part of a school project and thus - based on the policies regarding school projects, and as the template on the article itself notes, you are asked to assume good faith and address issues with me rather than proposing the article for deletion. I will note that winter break fell at a challenging place within this project, and did mean that the articles were not improved for a few weeks. However, it is actually expected that articles at this point in a project will be "so messed up," as you noted on the talk page, which is specifically why the school project structure and template exist.

Please remember that it is a minor child writing this page, who is hoping to learn to edit correctly. Positive, actionable, and narrative feedback may help that student grow into the editor they have the potential to become. Thank you Castilibrary2 (talk) 14:07, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Blissyu2, @Auntf6 and @Haoreima - Could you please help me understand the specifics of the school project guidelines? It was my impression that pages are protected from deletion over the course of a project. To my understanding, this does not mean posting a request for deletion during the course of the project instead of deleting them outright, at the nominator has now commented on the RfD page. It is my understanding that the students will have time to work on their articles. As there are no personal sandboxes here (as far as I can tell?) it seems to be our only option to edit them in the mainspace. Students' rate of work is definately being slowed down because the manual webpage citation tool is broken, as well as the autogenrate tool (though we discourage students from using it as the citations are often incomplete -- as much as it is apprecited!).

(Haoremia, I have seen you interact with some of my comments elsewhere on SImple English Wikipedia and you generally seem involved and currently editing, so I would like your opinion, please.)

Thank you, Castilibrary2 (talk) 16:15, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello Castilibrary2! Most of the deletions for "school projects" are due to either (1) "complete nonsense pages" or (2) "attack pages" (X is gay) or (3) pages simply copied and pasted from another wiki or web site or (4) pages where notability (is the article important enough to be included) is hard to judge. I saw (1), (2) & (3) aren't related to the page that you are concerning about! The RFD nominator claims notability, that's (4). According to WP:NOTABILITY, a subject is notable if it's either (1) Presumed - provided with independent reliable sources or (2) Significant coverage - sources address the subject directly in detail or (3) Reliable - Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability or (4) Sources - Multiple sources are generally preferred or (5) Independent of the subject - self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, autobiographies.

As I am observing, the article that you are concerning about is quite notable according to the above notability guideline points.

Well, regarding the article to be a part of a School Project, I don't think the way it's written is right. Because at least add a prefix "Wikipedia:Schools/Projects/...." like every other school project pages in SEW are doing. :-)

Regarding making sandboxes, there's no restriction. Anyone who are registered in any Wikimedia Foundation Project can create a sandbox here. You can ask your students to create their own sandboxes here like "User:XYZ/Sandbox" or "User:XYZ/School project" or whatever with the common prefix "User:XYZ/..."! To avoid immediate deletions of the recently created pages, first prepare a rough brief framework at their or your userspaces, like in the sandboxes. And after the framework is completed, copy and paste it to the direct mainspace of either at a normal article or at the school project, the one you are planning about!

Regarding unable to use the citation tool, I was having a mini discussion with Ferien at his talk page, maybe he could help you, though both Ferien and I can't find ultimate solution to that issue as of now. Happy editing! :-) Haoreima (talk) 16:54, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps then it can be moved to user space and the RfD can be closed. Blissyu2 (talk) 18:48, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

When we get to school tomorrow I will reach out to the student about moving it for now. Thank you Castilibrary2 (talk) 00:43, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you -- yes, the subject of the page is extremely notable according to all measures posted here or on en:wiki, where I work quite a bit using my personal account. I have gone through a WikiEdu training sponsored by the National Science Foundation and am helping now to organize one that one of my classmates from that group is doing in collaboration with the Smithsonian. That is just to say that, over the past few years (read: since I did my last school project, pre-Pandemic) I have actually spent several hours a week gaining more knowledge about correct editing, to try to make less work for @Auntof6, who has been a wonderful helper for me over the years! ;)

To be clearer, the project on which we are currently working is listed at Notable Female Role Models and you can see our past projects on the Schol Projects page.

I'm really interested in the Sandbox structure here. I used to be a bit confused by sandboxes, until I spent the last two years using them regularly in en:Wiki, but the only Sandbox I had seen here is one that I noticed another user being pointed to that seemed to be a single place for any and everyone to play on, as needed. Thank you for the pointers in starting our own, and we will certainly make use of them in future years.

Again, thank you Castilibrary2 (talk) 00:53, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Question about Yuriko Kimura

The currently linked page at JAWP says Yuriko Kimura is not a dancer but a movie director. The JAWP page says she is from Gunma Prefecture, not Kanazawa. Are you sure that you linked to the right person? If you know her name description in Kanji please let me know so I can fix the relevant Wikidata item. MathXplore (talk) 07:34, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for asking and checking in! The page I wrote is for "木村百合子." Thank you for reminding me to add the kanji to her page! Here are some sources that helped me find the proper kanji:

http://www.danceresearch.ac/buyougaku/2003/2003_33.pdfhttps://dancecomg.jimdofree.com/%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB/%E5%9B%A3%E4%BD%93%E3%81%AE%E3%81%82%E3%82%86%E3%81%BF/

https://twitter.com/murayama_kumiko/status/902150951049478145?lang=fi

https://www.nntt.jac.go.jp/season/s52/s52.html

I linked to the movie director (if, indeed, it was me) potentially out of some confusion because she is noted in English in several places (that I have not yet added to her page) as making two films (acting):

"She appeared in the Japanese films Ondine and Orphese which were made for the film festival in Venice." (Sources: https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0126/1489614.pdf,)

Please feel free to correct the page. I would be grateful!

And, if your Japanese reading comprehension is better than mine (not hard!) I am trying to figure out from where 木村百合子先生 got her Ph.D., or other details that are related to the degree. Oh, and they must not be the same person, because here is second confirmation on Kanazawa: http://www.gendaibuyou.or.jp/photo/n170827.pdf. Thank you for inspiring me to go deeper!

Thank you! Castilibrary2 (talk) 17:33, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

I came at this from the wrong account before. Once my student wrote her page, I was insprired to write about Kimura on enWikipedia. The rest still holds true, and the SEW page is for 木村百合子. Castilibrary2 (talk) 17:35, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Notice

Hey, I notice your other accounts (Editorcasti5 & Castieditor2). What you are doing right now is sock-puppetry and somebody may report this at the requests for checkuser page and think that you’re abusing multiple accounts. I recommend using the {{doppelganger}} template or create your own redirect to your other accounts (ASAP) so that editors here on Wikipedia can know that you’re not committing sock puppetry. Thanks, --You'reAGoodPerson343 ^(talk) 01:42, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, those are student accounts for students on my project and sometimes things get a bit confused. I'll go take a look and work it out. Thank you Castilibrary2 (talk) 01:59, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, You'reAGoodPerson343 New editors trying to help each other out and did not understand that would look like sock-puppetry. Will not happen again. Castilibrary2 (talk) 22:14, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

It looks like You'reAGoodPerson343 is just a disruptive sockpuppet themselves, so you can just ignore them :) --Ferien (talk) 12:47, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Sandboxes

Hello there. While students are making articles in sandboxes, could you ensure that categories are formatted like [[:Category:This]] instead of [[Category:This]] while the articles are in User: space? When they're moved to article space, they can have the categories added properly without the colon after the two double brackets. This is so the userpages don't appear in article categories while they are being worked on in userspace. Thanks :) --Ferien (talk) 12:50, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Ferien -- Thank you!! I had somehow missed this bit of code and had been really worried about it, since we just learned how to use Sandboxes in Simple English Wikipedia (as opposed to English, where it is an obvious tool) All the articles should be moving out of sandboxes shortly, but I will make sure that the category code gets fixed. Really, I am delighted for this piecce of knowledge. Thank you. Castilibrary2 (talk) 13:06, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Justa Lujwangana

An editor has requested deletion of Justa Lujwangana, an article you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Justa Lujwangana and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. Derpdart56 (talk) 16:09, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi Derpdart56 - I'll admit that Justa Lujwangana is the one page I have created for a student to work on where I was not solid on her notibility. I was unable to chime in becuse of workload at home and work, but would not have debated the deletion after seeing whree the stuent was able to take the page. Thank you, Castilibrary2 (talk) 13:21, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

A new class?

Hello, Castilibrary2, and welcome back to Simple English Wikipedia. Do you have a new class going? I noticed that Justa Lujwangana has been nominated for deletion. If this is an article being worked on for a class, you might want to put a class project template on it so that people will give time for it to be improved. The same would go for any other class project articles you might be working on.

Thanks, and let me know if there's anything I can help with. -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:54, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Yoshie Akiba

An editor has requested deletion of Yoshie Akiba, an article you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Yoshie Akiba and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. --Ferien (talk) 10:18, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Maha Elgenaidi

An editor has requested deletion of Maha Elgenaidi, an article you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Maha Elgenaidi and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 02:29, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Cydney Brown

An editor has requested deletion of Cydney Brown, an article you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Cydney Brown and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 03:55, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi Gordonrox24 - Thanks for keeping an eye on content in Simple English Wikipedia. Reluctantly, I agree with your reasoning. The student adamantly did not want to write about the individual assigned her (who was definitively notable), and Cydney Brown was substituted in a rush. Agreed that it is too early. Castilibrary2 (talk) 14:31, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 18:11, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Class projects done?

Hi, I saw your edit here. Is the class project done? Is it okay to copyedit the articles now? Lights and freedom (talk) 20:11, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for tasking. I am working my way through the articles to clean up a bit. As always, it is a long project. Today I am working from home and we have a teacher work day on Friday when I hope to finish up.

After that, as always, across Wikipedia, articles can use building on and improvement!

Which ones particularly interest you? Or is there some systemic error I made? I realized I left a bracket in the class project template.

Thank you Castilibrary2 (talk) 21:13, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

No problems in particular. I would like to help if I see some minor changes that should be made. For example, Melissa Cristina Márquez uses past perfect tense ("has received her undergraduate degree") when past simple would likely be better, and the Forbes link doesn't go to her author profile. I don't have to edit them now. Lights and freedom (talk) 21:32, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for asking, and I would not hate help. I think the class template is now off that page. Castilibrary2 (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

transgender in Miss America

Taking this here as it really isnt part of the RfD at heart (and the RfD is not looking like a good place for civil discussion)

The topic of transgender in Miss America would be completely valid. if. If you can find sufficient coverage. I am not against the topic. To be honest, there are extremely few topics I could care at all about. positively or negatively. To me, its all about how the article is presented. Ill tear into any article put in front of me, equaly. Im a wikignome. It is all about form, Content is for others to debate. I could rarely care less about content.. That being said, I do see that the topic would be of interest to some and would certainly be notable. As such, it would be valid for inclusion as a topic. How that topic is handled is where the issue pops up.

Care would need to be taken to adhere to NPOV. Both the pros and cons would need to be dealt with proportionally. Did you know the Miss Grand Derry win was actually in violation of the organizations policy? It is their right to ignore the policy any time they chose, but in a landmark case, it would be prudent to note this took place. It could be seen as "pushing the agenda" - See even Miss America thinks the naturally born female thing is wrong!! - but it can also be seen as providing facts on both sides of the issue and there by neutral. Side a: they have this rule in the first place. Side b. They chose to ignore the rule for <reasons>.

Original Research would also need to be avoided. Wikipedia is about collecting information from other sources to present the topic to the readers. It is about what others (authors, journalists, scientists.. people who are expected to be good sources of information) say, not what we say. If you did an interveiw with someone, you can't use that. Unless you had it published in a reliable source.. someone that fact checks. Then you could reference that publication but not your original notes the piece is written from.

A trans person winning a pageant would be great info in an article on this subject. I do not think it is enough for an entire article, but it would make a solid addition to an article on the larger subject. There just is not enough info surrounding the win to write more than a paragraph, maybe two, about it. While many articles here are only stubs, there shere should be enough out there to write a page or two at least for most topics.

The topic of transgender in Miss America could span a couple pages and the Miss Derry win and following social media coverage could presently be a large part of it. Pure Evil (talk) 19:02, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Page rename

Just a heads up. The article Anna (T) Nilsson was moved to Anna T. Nilsson and the bolded name in the intro was changed to match. The name now matches the name of the English Wikipedia version. The wikidate entry has also been changed over to the entry with the En and Sv pages on her. You may want to update the school project page to reflect the name change. Pure Evil (talk) 19:16, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You

		The Original Barnstar
		Hi Castilibrary2! Thank you so much for all of your contributions here. Your efforts facilitate the creation of many needed articles and contribute to addressing the gender gap. The January article for Edna Thomas inspired me to write a version for the English Wikipedia. Cheers, gobonobo + c 13:13, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

English Wikipedia links

Hello. I see you are starting some new articles and your class is editing them. So you are aware we do not allow links and references to the English Wikipedia. If we don’t have an article on simple to wiki link to (ie has [[ ]] marks around it) it will be red and that is ok. The more we have to an article the more likely it is to be created. English Wikipedia is a lot harder to read for our users based on statistics as they are written at a college graduate level and higher. You will see some articles where I have removed it. Please advise your students to not include the links please. One in particular says to read more about someone and points to the English wiki article. Thanks and if you have any questions, please feel free to ask me here or on my talk page. Thanks - PDL^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 12:47, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi PDL^{Talk to me!}, Thank you for reaching out! My students were told these guidelines, in particular since the whole point is to highlight missing voices an narratives and we talked about the power of red links to stimulate article creation.

We have just finished a school vacation and my TAs and I are using this week to look at their articles and give feedback for edits. I will be sure to take some time today to find any articles with this specific issue and sit down with the students. Did any in particular cause you to reach out?

In gratitude, Castilibrary2 (talk) 15:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, so this is one I found so far Kim Ransa. This is where I changed it. It looks like when it was created is when it was introduced here. Thanks - PDL^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 15:09, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Out of curiosity are you using the discussion helper? I noticed when you pinged me it was put in wrong. The gadget helps a lot as all you have to do is click on the person icon and select the name you want to ping in the conversation and it adds it for you. Thanks - PDL^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 15:26, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

No, I've somehow never learned how to properly ping another user. I seem to always have trouble with that bit. I'll look for the discussion helper.

Thank you for the edits, but also, I want students to have to clean up their own messes so that they can learn. If you run into another, please let me know and I will have the editor make the fix.

In gratitude, Castilibrary2 (talk) 16:18, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

I will reverse it for you. You can also click on the undo link and just put in why. For the ping you can read it on the English wiki at Help:Notifications. I will let you know if I see any others as I patrol. Thanks - PDL^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 16:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Also, I see it in their text earlier -- trying to figure out what we did there. Wonder if they got stuck on something and we used my device to try to fix it. Hrm...... Castilibrary2 (talk) 16:21, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

New Article Maor Ashkenazi

Good morning, could I simplify and make spelling improvements to the article Maor Ashkenazi, Israeli rapper. --Acartonadooopo (talk) 15:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

@Acartonadooopo, yes, you may. You can keep improving as it is under discussion. Thank you for contributing! Castilibrary2 (talk) 16:02, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Well, the question should have been self-understanding, I do not speak fluent English, I am Israeli, the question is if you can extend your hand to me and improve that spelling. Although this lack of notoriety is relatively unstable since the singer has a lot of notoriety in Israel but the user is demanding more contributions from me. Thanks Acartonadooopo (talk) 16:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

@Acartondoopo I understand! Yes, I will find some time to help edit the article. Thank you for contributing to Simple English Wikipedia, and for inviting me to work on the article you started. Castilibrary2 (talk) 18:49, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

RfD nomination of ReShonda Young

An editor has requested deletion of ReShonda Young, a page you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the page meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2024/ReShonda Young and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the page during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. --Ferien (talk) 22:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)